{"id":31041,"date":"2015-10-15T21:12:04","date_gmt":"2015-10-16T04:12:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/?p=31041"},"modified":"2015-10-15T21:12:04","modified_gmt":"2015-10-16T04:12:04","slug":"glencores-correlation-with-market-sentiment-and-an-end-to-the-collapse-in-commodities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/2015\/10\/15\/glencores-correlation-with-market-sentiment-and-an-end-to-the-collapse-in-commodities\/","title":{"rendered":"Glencore&#8217;s Correlation With Market Sentiment and An End to the Collapse In Commodities"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>(This is an excerpt from an article I originally published on Seeking Alpha on October 14, 2015. <a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/3570596-glencores-correlation-with-market-sentiment-and-an-end-to-the-collapse-in-commodities\" target=\"_blank\">Click here to read the entire piece<\/a>.)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>{snip}<\/p>\n<p>This quote is the entirety of a terse and pointed press release that commodity giant Glencore (GLCNF) (GLNCY) delivered to calm market fears about the company&#8217;s business. This release came a day after the stock plunged 29% in the wake of analyst doubts about Glencore&#8217;s financial soundness. {snip}<\/p>\n<p>{snip}<\/p>\n<p>The press release worked as Glencore&#8217;s stock quickly recovered all its losses. {snip}<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31115\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31115\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_Glencore.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_Glencore.png\" alt=\"Glencore has recovered all of its 29% one-day loss and then some\" width=\"550\" height=\"235\" class=\"size-full wp-image-31115\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_Glencore.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_Glencore-300x128.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31115\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Glencore has recovered all of its 29% one-day loss and then some<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<strong>Source: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/quote\/GLEN:LN\" target=\"_blank\">Bloomberg.com<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p>The news was big given Glencore&#8217;s size (now greatly diminished) and position in the commodity complex. Google trends indicates the relative magnitude of the surge of interest. The buzz on Glencore&#8217;s potential demise roared louder than the buzz surrounding its <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2011-04-13\/glencore-seeks-11-billion-ipo-as-goldman-says-flee-commodities\" target=\"_blank\">big splash onto the IPO market just as commodities were peaking in 2011<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31103\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31103\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_GlencoreGoogleTrend.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_GlencoreGoogleTrend.png\" alt=\"Glencore made big news but mainly outside of the U.S. where the company is listed and\/or heavily invested\/active.\" width=\"550\" height=\"479\" class=\"size-full wp-image-31103\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_GlencoreGoogleTrend.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_GlencoreGoogleTrend-300x261.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31103\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Glencore made big news but mainly outside of the U.S. where the company is listed and\/or heavily invested\/active.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_31104\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31104\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_GlencoreGoogleTrend-90days.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_GlencoreGoogleTrend-90days.png\" alt=\"The interest in Glencore was short and sharp. The chatter has already died back down to previous baseline levels.\" width=\"550\" height=\"226\" class=\"size-full wp-image-31104\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_GlencoreGoogleTrend-90days.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151012_GlencoreGoogleTrend-90days-300x123.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31104\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The interest in Glencore was short and sharp. The chatter has already died back down to previous baseline levels.<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<strong>Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/trends\/explore#q=glencore&#038;date=today%203-m&#038;cmpt=q&#038;tz=Etc%2FGMT%2B7\" target=\"_blank\">Google Trends<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p>The combination of sharp price action and market news is signature for a major market extreme that signals the end of a move. In this case, Glencore looks like it has made a major bottom. In a Bloomberg interview, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/videos\/2015-10-12\/jim-chanos-talks-commodities-cheniere-and-glencore\" target=\"_blank\">Jim Chanos even implied that he is finally ready to cover his short in Glencore<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<script src='\/\/cdn.gotraffic.net\/projector\/latest\/bplayer.js'>BPlayer(null, {\"id\":\"vXIpcufxSXOxSsEFJvJMXw\",\"htmlChildId\":\"bbg-video-player-vXIpcufxSXOxSsEFJvJMXw\",\"serverUrl\":\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/api\/embed\",\"idType\":\"BMMR\",\"autoplay\":false,\"log_debug\":false,\"ui_controls_popout\":false,\"wmode\":\"opaque\",\"share_metadata\":{\"canonical_url\":\"http:\/\/bloom.bg\/1MrD5Ha\"},\"use_share_overlay\":true,\"video_autoplay_on_page\":false,\"use_js_ads\":true,\"ad_code_prefix\":\"\",\"ad_tag_gpt_preroll\":true,\"ad_tag_gpt_midroll\":true,\"ad_tag_sz_preroll\":\"1x7\",\"ad_tag_sz_midroll\":\"1x7\",\"ad_tag_sz_overlay\":\"1x7\",\"ad_network_id_preroll\":\"5262\",\"ad_network_id_midroll\":\"5262\",\"ad_network_id_overlay\":\"5262\",\"ads_vast_timeout\":10000,\"ads_playback_timeout\":10000,\"use_comscore\":true,\"comscore_ns_site\":\"bloomberg\",\"comscore_page_level_tags\":{\"bb_brand\":\"bbiz\",\"bss_cont_play\":0,\"bb_region\":\"US\"},\"use_chartbeat\":true,\"chartbeat_uid\":\"15087\",\"chartbeat_domain\":\"bloomberg.com\",\"vertical\":\"business\",\"ad_tag_overlay\":\"business\/videooverlay\",\"use_parsely\":true,\"source\":\"BBIZweb\",\"module_conviva_insights\":\"enabled\",\"conviva_account\":\"c3.Bloomberg\",\"zone\":\"video\",\"ad_tag_cust_params_preroll\":\"\",\"width\":550,\"height\":309,\"ad_tag\":\"\",\"ad_tag_midroll\":\"\",\"offsite_embed\":true});<\/script><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p>{snip}<\/p>\n<p>I am also not willing to declare that this is THE bottom given the Glencore incident is likely to be an early salvo of more churn to come. Many of us have seen this story before&#8230;{snip}<\/p>\n<p>No matter how this drama actually unfolds, the price action, the Google trends, and Chanos all suggest together that sellers have exhausted themselves for now. <\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, the burst of drama on Glencore coincided with some important market moves. {snip}<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31123\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31123\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_VIX.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_VIX.png\" alt=\"The angst of August has become a distant memory. The drama with Glencore helped spark a very brief revival of angst.\" width=\"550\" height=\"375\" class=\"size-full wp-image-31123\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_VIX.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_VIX-300x205.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31123\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The angst of August has become a distant memory. The drama with Glencore helped spark a very brief revival of angst.<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p>As the chart of the VIX shows, the weak jobs report was the final sweep. {snip}<\/p>\n<p>In an even more stark example of Glencore&#8217;s correlation with markets, the Australian dollar (FXA) &#8211; {snip} &#8211; traded sharply around the Glencore news. {snip}<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31128\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31128\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_AUDJPY.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_AUDJPY.png\" alt=\"The Australian dollar printed a higher low against the Japanese yen as Glencore collapsed on September 29, 2015\" width=\"550\" height=\"375\" class=\"size-full wp-image-31128\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_AUDJPY.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_AUDJPY-300x205.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31128\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Australian dollar printed a higher low against the Japanese yen as Glencore collapsed on September 29, 2015<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p>{snip}<\/p>\n<p>There are of course a lot of cross-signals and not everything is about Glencore&#8230;especially since Google trends suggest that Americans do not have this unfolding drama front and center on their radar. One important cross-current recently came from Morgan Stanley (MS).<\/p>\n<p>{snip}<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_31136\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31136\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_BHP.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_BHP.png\" alt=\"BHP Billiton Limited (BHP) first hops after Glencore&#039;s reassurances and then gets an extra boost from Morgan Stanley&#039;s upgrade\" width=\"550\" height=\"375\" class=\"size-full wp-image-31136\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_BHP.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_BHP-300x205.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31136\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">BHP Billiton Limited (BHP) first hops after Glencore&#8217;s reassurances and then gets an extra boost from Morgan Stanley&#8217;s upgrade<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_31137\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-31137\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_RIO.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_RIO.png\" alt=\"Rio Tinto (RIO) experiences a resurgence similar to BHP&#039;s. (The numbers on the chart indicate the approximate spot price of iron ore on a particular day).\" width=\"550\" height=\"375\" class=\"size-full wp-image-31137\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_RIO.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/151013_RIO-300x205.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-31137\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rio Tinto (RIO) experiences a resurgence similar to BHP&#8217;s. (The numbers on the chart indicate the approximate spot price of iron ore on a particular day).<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<strong>Source for equity charts: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freestockcharts.com\/platform\/v1\" target=\"_blank\">FreeStockCharts.com<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p>Contrast this upgrade and market reaction to the prior week. Ironically enough, it was Morgan Stanley talking the exact opposite side of the commodity story. {snip}<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;{snip}The absence of a collapse, which is the &#8220;good news&#8221; for Glencore for now, does not count as good news even under current conditions. My main point of optimism is that at least it seems we are finally closing in on some kind of true, washout moment that carves out a solid and sustainable bottom in many commodities. As seems so often the case these days, the final washout looks like it could involve some kind of credit\/debt event. My eyes stay focused on Glencore.<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<script src='\/\/cdn.gotraffic.net\/projector\/latest\/bplayer.js'>BPlayer(null, {\"id\":\"oOEeNuVHQk~L2AYKNkNcfA\",\"htmlChildId\":\"bbg-video-player-oOEeNuVHQk~L2AYKNkNcfA\",\"serverUrl\":\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/api\/embed\",\"idType\":\"BMMR\",\"autoplay\":false,\"log_debug\":false,\"ui_controls_popout\":false,\"wmode\":\"opaque\",\"share_metadata\":{\"canonical_url\":\"http:\/\/bloom.bg\/1KKjRai\"},\"use_share_overlay\":true,\"video_autoplay_on_page\":true,\"use_js_ads\":true,\"ad_code_prefix\":\"\",\"ad_tag_gpt_preroll\":true,\"ad_tag_gpt_midroll\":true,\"ad_tag_sz_preroll\":\"1x7\",\"ad_tag_sz_midroll\":\"1x7\",\"ad_tag_sz_overlay\":\"1x7\",\"ad_network_id_preroll\":\"5262\",\"ad_network_id_midroll\":\"5262\",\"ad_network_id_overlay\":\"5262\",\"ads_vast_timeout\":10000,\"ads_playback_timeout\":10000,\"use_comscore\":true,\"comscore_ns_site\":\"bloomberg\",\"comscore_page_level_tags\":{\"bb_brand\":\"bbiz\",\"bss_cont_play\":0,\"bb_region\":\"US\"},\"use_chartbeat\":true,\"chartbeat_uid\":\"15087\",\"chartbeat_domain\":\"bloomberg.com\",\"vertical\":\"business\",\"ad_tag_overlay\":\"business\/videooverlay\",\"use_parsely\":true,\"source\":\"BBIZweb\",\"module_conviva_insights\":\"enabled\",\"conviva_account\":\"c3.Bloomberg\",\"zone\":\"article\",\"ad_tag_cust_params_preroll\":\"\",\"width\":550,\"height\":309,\"ad_tag\":\"\",\"ad_tag_midroll\":\"\",\"offsite_embed\":true});<\/script><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p><strong>(This is an excerpt from an article I originally published on Seeking Alpha on October 14, 2015. <a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/3570596-glencores-correlation-with-market-sentiment-and-an-end-to-the-collapse-in-commodities\" target=\"_blank\">Click here to read the entire piece<\/a>.)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Be careful out there!<\/p>\n<p>Full disclosure: long put and call options on BHP, long RIO call options<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(This is an excerpt from an article I originally published on Seeking Alpha on October 14, 2015. Click here to read the entire piece.) {snip} This quote is the entirety of a terse and pointed press release that commodity giant Glencore (GLCNF) (GLNCY) delivered to calm market fears about the company&#8217;s business. This release came &#8230; <a title=\"Glencore&#8217;s Correlation With Market Sentiment and An End to the Collapse In Commodities\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/2015\/10\/15\/glencores-correlation-with-market-sentiment-and-an-end-to-the-collapse-in-commodities\/\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[386,4,199,20],"tags":[772,310,631,309,1530,1164,676,129,1138,1139,692],"class_list":["post-31041","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-australia","category-china","category-commodities","category-forex","tag-audjpy","tag-australian-dollar","tag-bhp","tag-fxa","tag-glencore","tag-google-trends","tag-iron-ore","tag-market-sentiment","tag-morgan-stanley","tag-ms","tag-rio"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Glencore&#039;s Correlation With Market Sentiment and An End to the Collapse In Commodities - ONE-TWENTY TWO: Trading Financial Markets<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/2015\/10\/15\/glencores-correlation-with-market-sentiment-and-an-end-to-the-collapse-in-commodities\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Glencore&#039;s Correlation With Market Sentiment and An End to the Collapse In Commodities - ONE-TWENTY TWO: Trading Financial Markets\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"(This is an excerpt from an article I originally published on Seeking Alpha on October 14, 2015. 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