{"id":26550,"date":"2015-04-08T22:54:39","date_gmt":"2015-04-09T05:54:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/?p=26550"},"modified":"2015-04-08T22:54:39","modified_gmt":"2015-04-09T05:54:39","slug":"negative-feedback-loops-should-continue-pressuring-iron-ore-prices-lower","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/2015\/04\/08\/negative-feedback-loops-should-continue-pressuring-iron-ore-prices-lower\/","title":{"rendered":"Negative Feedback Loops Should Continue Pressuring Iron Ore Prices Lower"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>(This is an excerpt from an article I originally published on Seeking Alpha on January 19, 2015. <a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/2829556-negative-feedback-loops-should-continue-pressuring-iron-ore-prices-lower\" target=\"_blank\">Click here to read the entire piece<\/a>.)<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>{April 8, 2015 addendum: negative feedback loop is not the accurate term. I should have left it at feedback loops or even destructive feedback loops}<\/p>\n<p>{snip}<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_26556\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26556\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_RIO.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_RIO.png\" alt=\"Rio Tinto has recently trended downward with iron ore prices...but not in a direct relationship\" width=\"550\" height=\"375\" class=\"size-full wp-image-26556\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_RIO.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_RIO-300x205.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-26556\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rio Tinto has recently trended downward with iron ore prices&#8230;but not in a direct relationship<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p>{snip} There is every reason to believe that prices will continue converging upon the marginal cost of production of the three biggest players that are driving the market into severe conditions of over-supply: Rio Tinto (RIO), BHP Billiton Limited (BHP), and Vale S.A. (VALE). <\/p>\n<p>Here is a summary of the key pillars that keep on the bearish side of the fence (albeit hedged):<\/p>\n<p><strong>Oil prices<\/strong><br \/>\nOil prices (USO) have fallen off a cliff and have reached lows last seen during the financial crisis. <\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_26559\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26559\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_OilPrices_BrentWTI.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_OilPrices_BrentWTI.png\" alt=\"The plunge in oil prices\" width=\"550\" height=\"365\" class=\"size-full wp-image-26559\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_OilPrices_BrentWTI.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_OilPrices_BrentWTI-300x199.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-26559\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The plunge in oil prices<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<strong>Source: <a href=\"http:\/\/research.stlouisfed.org\/fred2\/graph\/?g=XuE\" target=\"_blank\">St. Louis Federal Reserve<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p>{snip}<\/p>\n<p><strong>Government intervention<\/strong><br \/>\nUnemployment makes for bad politics. Governments in resource-rich areas have few options to keep voters happy and protect lost tax revenues than to do what they can to help prop up their local producers. {snip}<\/p>\n<p>China<br \/>\nIt goes without saying that the Chinese government is helping to keep its iron ore miners in business. {snip}<\/p>\n<p>Canada<br \/>\nThe investment arm of the Canadian province of Quebec is reportedly talking to Cliffs Natural Resources Inc. (CLF) to reopen its high cost Bloom Lake iron ore mine. {snip}<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_26568\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26568\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_CLF.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_CLF.png\" alt=\"Hope springs anew as Cliffs Natural Resources Inc. (CLF) bounces nearly 50% off recent lows\" width=\"550\" height=\"375\" class=\"size-full wp-image-26568\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_CLF.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_CLF-300x205.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-26568\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hope springs anew as Cliffs Natural Resources Inc. (CLF) bounces nearly 50% off recent lows<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p><strong>Speculators<\/strong><br \/>\nHellenic Shipping News recently ran a story called &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.hellenicshippingnews.com\/chinese-funds-aggressively-shorting-commodities-linked-to-copper-dive\/\" target=\"_blank\">Chinese funds aggressively shorting commodities linked to copper dive<\/a>.&#8221; {snip}<\/p>\n<p><strong>Insufficient retrenchment by Chinese producers<\/strong><br \/>\nThe big hope for almost a year now is that the Chinese will shut down high-cost mines as prices drop below their costs of production. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/2014-06-30\/daily-iron-ore-mine-closures-in-china-mean-citigroup-is-bullish.html\" target=\"_blank\">In June, 2014, a Citigroup analyst was bullish on iron ore given his observation of &#8220;daily mine closings&#8221; in China<\/a>. {snip}<\/p>\n<p><strong>Incentive to continue producing regardless of current market conditions<\/strong><br \/>\nAll the major producers have insisted that the long-term outlook for Chinese demand is very bullish. I believe they have generally stayed bullish on prices every year since the 2011 peak. Only BHP seems to have finally cracked a bit recently. {snip}<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/2797765-the-commodities-crash-playbook-a-long-overdue-rewrite-and-revision\" target=\"_blank\">The commodities crash playbook<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\nUsing the revised playbook on commodities, I have to assume that the current downtrend will persist. I maintain no predictions for when a bottom may occur or where prices might be this year or the next. {snip}<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_26567\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26567\" style=\"width: 540px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_VALE.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_VALE.png\" alt=\"With an acceleration of its decline in recent months, VALE sliced right through lows last seen during the financial crisis\" width=\"550\" height=\"375\" class=\"size-full wp-image-26567\" srcset=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_VALE.png 550w, https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/150116_VALE-300x205.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-26567\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">With an acceleration of its decline in recent months, VALE sliced right through lows last seen during the financial crisis<\/figcaption><\/figure><br \/>\nSource for stock charts: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freestockcharts.com\/platform\/v1\" target=\"_blank\">FreeStockCharts.com<\/a><br \/>\n<\/center><\/p>\n<p>Be careful out there!<\/p>\n<p>Full disclosure: short RIO, long VALE, long CLF<\/p>\n<p><strong>(This is an excerpt from an article I originally published on Seeking Alpha on January 19, 2015. <a href=\"http:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/2829556-negative-feedback-loops-should-continue-pressuring-iron-ore-prices-lower\" target=\"_blank\">Click here to read the entire piece<\/a>.)<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(This is an excerpt from an article I originally published on Seeking Alpha on January 19, 2015. Click here to read the entire piece.) {April 8, 2015 addendum: negative feedback loop is not the accurate term. I should have left it at feedback loops or even destructive feedback loops} {snip} {snip} There is every reason &#8230; <a title=\"Negative Feedback Loops Should Continue Pressuring Iron Ore Prices Lower\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/2015\/04\/08\/negative-feedback-loops-should-continue-pressuring-iron-ore-prices-lower\/\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[235,4,199,377],"tags":[631,845,465,466,685,1109,676,536,692,847,538,661,846],"class_list":["post-26550","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-canada","category-china","category-commodities","category-oil","tag-bhp","tag-bhp-billiton-ltd","tag-clf","tag-cliffs-natural-resources-inc","tag-commodities-crash-playbook","tag-fortescue-metals-group","tag-iron-ore","tag-oil-2","tag-rio","tag-rio-tinto-plc","tag-uso","tag-vale","tag-vale-s-a"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Negative Feedback Loops Should Continue Pressuring Iron Ore Prices Lower - ONE-TWENTY TWO: Trading Financial Markets<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/drduru.com\/onetwentytwo\/2015\/04\/08\/negative-feedback-loops-should-continue-pressuring-iron-ore-prices-lower\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Negative Feedback Loops Should Continue Pressuring Iron Ore Prices Lower - ONE-TWENTY TWO: Trading Financial Markets\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"(This is an excerpt from an article I originally published on Seeking Alpha on January 19, 2015. 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